What Justice is this?
A case reported in a paper today
A teenage girl aged 17 and her boyfriend aged 30, and three others, two cannot be named for legal reasons tortured a man with learning difficulties, force-fed him with tablets, before marching him to a viaduct. The teenage girl stamped on the mans fingers so he fell to his death. The boyfriend got 25 years for murder and the teenage girl got 10 years on the same charge.The third adult got 8 years, for manslaughter. All three admitted assault, causing actual bodily harm. The judge said you " bullied him to death". The two younger ones were sentenced to ABH, and for further reports. How is this justice? what the hell is wrong with the legal system in this country. These scum, deliberately tortured and killed this poor man in a most heinous way and all the girl got was ten years, i do not understand that this is punishment, she will be out in 7 years or less with good behaviour and her boyfriend maybe in 15.
Where's the justice for him or his family
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Yes thats BS Law.. The law has this statement in its underarms. Thats a person younger than 18 has a tendency of following what others do without knowing right from wrong.. So they always end up getting lesser punishment. though in this case it is clear that the 17 year old gal should have been old enough to know that stamping a persons fingers hurts... May be some one should have done the same to her to teach her something. not only to her but all the people involved.
Thats... horrible..
No justice whatsoever.
Hopefully shes gets all of her money taken away from her in other suits.
Then she can dies being a bum on the street, its what they all deserve.
There is no justice in the world. We take what we can get, unfortunately...
I have never condoned the death penalty but I am beginning to change my mind
SICK BASTARDS THEY SHOULD ALL GET THE CAPITOL PUNISHMENT
Agreed. ;/
It's sad, really.
they probly forgave them for their age, the jury should have alought more power in the judicial systom.
There is no real justice I agree with you. The law is an ***. It seems that robberies get harsher sentences yet murders get less.
LOOK your so right. BUt trust me society wont let them 4 get what they did. THEy are sick sick sick bastards. Some one should do the same to them.
7 Years? Joking aren't you? I think you'll find she'll be out in 5 which makes it even worse.
I believe in "an eye for an eye", if you take someones life then why do you deserve to live. If there is evidence beyond questionable doubt then I think the death penalty should be brought back. Maybe people would think twice about such a horrific crime if they knew this would be the consequence.
I just don't understand some people. This poor man had learning difficulties yes, but I think you'll find that his murderers were the true mentally ill ones.
I agree wholeheartedly.Violence should not be tolerated in any way unless self defense.Many a prison cells hold sick and elderly less violent offenders.Those types should be set up on a work and home restraint program,with them paying the cost.Fill those cells with child molesters and violent offenders.
Not making any comment on whether it's right or not (and I suspect I agree with you) - however, she got a lesser sentence as she is a minor. Let's just hope her time in prison is a) hard time, and b) she gets some proper tuition on right and wrong - like shock treatment or something!
There isn't justice in this country, at all. If you are rich enough and can afford a decent lawyer you can get away with most stuff. This story is just a terrible example of how terrible our legal system really is. Think about all the scum that get out of prison because of say there dad is a "drug baron", and can afford bail for pretty much anything. Its just wrong.
That is not right. That is not justice at all. Yes they got jail time,but they should have gotten a life sentence. Look it up on the Internet. If you can't find it then try to email a judge.
I have no idea who sets up the standards for punishment on different crimes but they certainly did a crappy job didn't they? Proper punishment - take them to the viaduct, let them hang by their fingers over the edge and let the dead man's family stomp on their fingers. When they fall, if they live - so be it and they should then rot in jail. If they die- so be it. It should not matter how old the perpetrators are.
In my mind the problem in many cases is that the judges know that there is simply no place for these people to go. There are no facilities, and those that do actually exist are full to bursting. Therefore in cases of lesser crimes (in what universe is murder a lesser crime anyway) the judges have to do what they can. In the case of the minor there was probably an argument that she was persuaded to act the way she did by her older compatriots and as a minor she had to be treated as such by the court. I agree with you whole heartedly, but this is how it is in this country, justice is expensive and sometimes Americans forget that and choose instead to save their money for their own uses.
there is no justice, liberal courts now give the most liberal punishment allowed and these preps are back on the streets to reek more havoc.sue them in civil courts and take away everything they have or hope to have.
murderers, rapists, pedophiles seem to have more rights under our laws than ordinary citizens and their victims.
Sigh, this must have been in the UK, no other country has such a diabolical justice system. The punishment should reflect the severity of the crime as I have said many times before, age should not come into it.
My mother was murdered along with her friend in 1988, the killing was pre-meditated, but due to this amazing thing they call "diminished responsibility" her killer got just 8 years (the judge said he showed remorse and had the rest of his live to live, at that point I almost got contempt of court for shouting abuse) he served only four years and was free by the time he was 37, just two years younger than my mother was when she died. this was 19 years ago, the system is still horrendous and the victims family seem to suffer far more than the criminals. I live abroad now, thank God.
Well..I dont call thats Justice..Its stupid...
I mean The girl only got 10 years!?!?! lol maybe the girl have sex with the lawyer lol sorry for my behavior but who knows? its true sometimes?? and his BF got 25 well I would say justice if
she and he got 15 years of speding in the jail and those Others
must have 20 now that I call IS Very Un-justified lol im a bad lawyer...
I'm curious as to why the girl, convicted on the same charge as her boyfriend only received a sentence of less than half of his. If she caused him to lose his grip, SHE is the one who directly caused his death.
The law is soft on real criminals, they should never come out of jail, that was a cruel premeditated crime on a harmless and very vulnerable man
Accidents can happen to them when they are out.
You are so right. It's absolutely disgusting, and quite horrendous, that they got away with murder, and only have a few years to spend in prison. They should have to pay with the rest of their lives, just like the life they took away.
Unfortunately, life and society do not work that way.
But, we are very lucky to have good, caring people, like you, who believe in justice and want to see justice done. It's good to see there are other good, just, caring people in the world.
They will get they're just deserts in prison.
thats life in the uk now its sad bring back hanging or deportation its a sad sad world no morals here
kids today know there going to get away with things and dont give a ****
The clue is in what the Judge said: ''You bullied him to death''.
The Judge made a leap of intellect from 'tortured' to 'bullied' and having settled on Bullied then made a further intellectual leap to his Public School upbringing; in as much as Bullying equates to harmless de-bagging at boarding school.
It just so happens that this in the Judge's mind had an unfortunate and incidental outcome...Death.
''Not really murder don't cha know'' would be the attitude.
This mentality unfortunately is rife in the Judiciary and is very much the downside of employing (as Judges) Middle to Upper-class Twats.
There is an abundance of Law, but absolutely NO Justice.
Yes its awful but these out of date judges,,,only seem to,,,give...one life in Prison.like it was only one pulled the trigger,,,,,so to speak,,, But they were all Guilty has one another,,,and should all got the same sentence,,,,,
Ooh good point Rogerglyn! Let's employ some working class twats as judges instead.
Judges apply the law in a sober fashion, not in some hysterical way that seems to have become the norm in just about every other facet of public life in this country.
Yes it was an awful crime and personally I'd like to see the little tinkers shot in the head. Which is precisely why I'm not a Judge.
Cretin.
This is Browns Britain under New Labour...just accept it.
What really frustrates me is that they will not even serve half of that sentence, because of overcrowding
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