The "modern progressivist"?
In the YouTube debate last night, Sen. Clinton claimed that she was not a liberal, but a modern progressivist. Does anyone remember that the progressive party was formed to make the sudden changes after the Civil War? And that they failed miserably because the changes needed were not made soon enough? I fear that she will follow in that line up... nothing done soon enough. I'm not a Hilary fan anyway, but seriously, she should understand what she's calling herself. Any comments?(I'd love a debate if anyone's up to it!)
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It is just an empty term. She is simply defining 'progress' as the things that she thinks will get her elected.
Haven't you noticed that Hillary's positions change with every public-opinion poll?
The reason she will not clal herself a liberal is because the right-wing has convinced through their propaganda, a sizable portion of the United States, that being a liberal is a bad thing.
Personally I am a proud liberal democrat, and I wouldn't hide behind words like "progressive".
what do you want to debate? i dislike her as much as i dislike her husband. if you know the background on the progressive party, what do you want to debate.
hilary is an opportunist, and a carpetbagger. isn't that a civil war term.
if you are worried about what she is calling herself, email her. your debate sounds like someone beating a dead horse, since you don't like her. i sense that you just want to argue with someone, with what you consider a superior intelligence, obviously.
She is terrified of the word.
Ms Lou,
I have an opinion on this question - no brains, no facts just a big, fat opinion!
I believe that the Democrats and their supporters dislike the name "Liberal". It has bad vibes among the populace. So they hunted around (not too far - they are somewhat afraid of the dark) and came up with the term "Progressive". What does that mean to the average voter? My guess - we are making 'progress', we are moving things forward. Also, according to their thought process they say: The Republicans, on the other hand, are conservatives - they want to 'conserve things', keep them the way they are - even if it is bad - no change allowed!
I may be wrong but I noticed that 'Progressive" term showing up in the Washington Post, The LA Times, etc.. So it must have some meaning to the 'insiders' - the Liberals. It is probably a means of steering folks away from "Liberal" society and into their more moderate "Progressive" one.
I am a staunch Independent - I think that way, I vote that way. So, as to the above, it is my guess. Excellent question and analysis, by the way. Very interesting. Thanks!
I think that "progressives" refers more to those individuals acting for change from the late 1800s through the 1920s (arguably the dates that refer to the progressive era). These individuals advocated for change in a variety of arenas such as women's rights and exposed corruption in government and business. I would disagree that they "failed" in their pursuit, seeing as beneficial laws were passed and amendments to the constitution were ratified as a result of their work. I do agree however, that it did take a long time to create change then, as it will today. I don't think change will happen quickly, regardless of who is voted into office. Those people can only influence the pace of change.
Personally, I liked her response in the debate when she stated she was a "progressivist." I believe that the term refers more to an advocate for change (as identified above) and therefore I thought this term is more appropriate than "liberal" which has been used by others to label individuals with "extreme" views.
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