Smoke free legislation?
Let's say a village had an event each year, where members of the village went to a local hall and had a party. There's a non-compulsory donation of three quid on the door to a local charity. It's bring your own alcohol, so there are no staff working there.
Is it smoke free? Most of the stuff I've read seems to say it depends on whether it's open to the public or not, but if necessary it can be restricted to certain people (even if there are a couple of hundred of them!)
What do people think?
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Officially, the local hall is an enclosed public space, so yes it would be illegal...
But, I suppose, if it was a select few of your mates - who is going to find out? I didn't just say that...
it should be smoke free
according to the law its all indoor public spaces.
if its a public building then yes the smoke ban is in force no matter what the situation is.
I argued that this does not constitute a public place but the smoke-nazis won't accept it!
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It is an enclosed space to which the public are admitted therefore no smoking is allowed. Whether it is a public or private function, or whether or not there is anyone working there at the time, is irrelevant.
If it's a private function in a rental hall the ban shouldn't apply(because a rental hall is the equivalent of a private members only club or bar.). but then again that's here in the states, not sure about the other side of the pond.
By law it is smoke free. It is an enclosed public space. See "Smoke-free (Premises and Enforcement) Regulations 2006 on enclosed premises below
Enclosed and substantially enclosed premises
2. —(1) For the purposes of section 2 of the Act, premises are enclosed if they—
(a) have a ceiling or roof; and
(b) except for doors, windows and passageways, are wholly enclosed either permanently or temporarily.
(2) For the purposes of section 2 of the Act, premises are substantially enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof but there is—
(a) an opening in the walls; or
(b) an aggregate area of openings in the walls,
which is less than half of the area of the walls, including other structures that serve the purpose of walls and constitute the perimeter of the premises.
(3) In determining the area of an opening or an aggregate area of openings for the purposes of paragraph (2), no account is to be taken of openings in which there are doors, windows or other fittings that can be opened or shut.
(4) In this regulation "roof" includes any fixed or moveable structure or device which is capable of covering all or part of the premises as a roof, including, for example, a canvas awning.
Just smoke anyway. Sod these bloody 'know it all, know nothing' twerps. They should all be shot.
I like how the 'intolerants' just love to point out the law, even if they are not sure, they will always skew it towards their holier than thou prejudices.
If there is a consensus in favour, ie of smokers and non-smokers over the 'intolerants' (anti-smokers), just smoke anyway.
I think that the none smoking law still applies, although I would tend if to ignore it if I was taking part (I'm a non smoker by the way) You will these days almost certainly find a notice in the hall telling you that is illegal to smoke on those premises, so if you are organising it you could find yourself in the DOO DAR
It does get a bit silly. Many people like myself attend their local church and it is now obliged to have a notice saying it is illegal to smoke on those premises.
We asked a venerable sides-man how often he had to tell people to refrain from smoking in church. You know the answer.
Wrong. In any place that is used by more than one person, for whatever reason, and whenever, and whether they are a non-smoker or not, you are forbidden to smoke in this area.
Smokers do seem cloudy on these 'crystal clear' issues, or is this justone more self centered ar*se hole bleeting on about not being able to kill others.
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