Spanish Inquisition...Patriot Act...where's the difference?
We laugh and shake our heads in amazement at how overly cruel and evil the Spanish were for their methods during the Spanish Inquisition, but here we are centuries later with the Patriot Act giving the Government similar powers. They can take you without telling you why, don't have to give you a lawyer...and this is all IF they suspect you of terrorism.
Strikes me as odd that we mock previous societies, then recreate their lunacy in the modern world..your thoughts?
And no smart ars3 comments please.
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it the same thing if they fear you they label you and try to take you out , bait them out then turn it public lets use propaganda against them it really works well
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They murdered people in the inquisition
If they take you w/o a fight, it's your own fault!
we're burning people at stakes now?
differnce is 'nobody suspects the spanish inquisition'
There isn't any difference. Barbarism and tyranny are the same no matter who the animals perpetrating such crimses are.
The Spanish Inquisition had its Auto da fe. The Bush administration has its rendering procedures. I have no idea what they do to you in an Egyptian torture chamber, but it's probably not as bad as the Inquisitors' techniques.
Nobody expects the spanish inquistition
I agree, although I do not laugh at or mock those societies from our past, as they are reflections of what humanity is capable of at any time (ie now or in the future). I am thankful that I did not live during the Spanish Inquisition, much as I am thankful that I do not live in the USA.
The Patriot Act doesn't have anything to do with converting Jews into Christians (Catholics) through torture.
Definitley the mass murder. That is one huge whopping difference.
This is like comparing the Holocaust to Guantanamo. Yes, it is an internment camp. But people are being fed better food there than our troops recieve, have access to lawyers, and those who have been cleared of terrorism charges have been returned home. This is not the same as Nazi germany, nor is the Patriot Act the same as the Inquisition.
It's an absurd comparison.
Can you cite a case in which a write of habeas corpus has been denied?
What is interesting is that today the democrat-controlled house and senate passed a 6-month extension allowing the Bush administration to bypass the FISA court. Explain that.
Well lots of fascist systems require a ruse for them to work. The ruse depends on the demographic. If you are taking power and everyone is poor then you use the communism ruse. You can use a scapegoat also such as Hitler did. The scape goat ruse for fascism has a lot in common. Jews were not allowed to use trains and buses. They were put into concentration camps without access to courts. Like th no-fly lists and black sites and offshore gulags we have today in America. And of habeas has been denied by our top law man Attorney General Gonzales. Habeas appears twice in the constitution. Yes, by giving the President the power of a Monarch we can expect changes in what we call America.
agreed.
In a perfect world everyone would get along.
In this world there are evil people who have no regard for you or anything you care about.
Please explain to me how you are going to rationally sit down with these types of people and get them to come to your way of thinking?
The people I'm speaking about would just as soon walk into the pre-school where your kids are and kill them all with a bomb strapped to their waist and do it in the name of God.
So instead of complaining about someone else's idea of solving this problem I'd like to hear yours. I don't like seeing personal freedoms eroded either. But talking about it and doing nothing got an awful lot of people killed on 9/11.
Spanish Inquistition: Killing and torturing anyone who wasn't catholic and conformed to the religion.
Patriot Act: um where's the killing and torturing? It might not be right, and some of the wrong ppl may be taken, despite good intentions(well some ppls good intentions) but it was supposed to be something to protect america, instead of changing society
it's like comparing george bush to hitler, it doesn't matter whether you agree whether the patriot act is good or not, but to compare it along side something so bad is just not right.
Actually, those are other programs conducted by the Bush regime -- the Patriot Act is a separate piece of legislation that just lets the govt have access to your utility and library records.
The ability to seize any person, hold them indefinitely without trial and without access to the courts, torture them for information and then use those confessions as evidence -- those come from other programs and other laws, including the Military Commissions Act of 2006.
Compared to the other things our govt is doing -- the Patriot Act is a about as annoying as a misquito.
Because the Spaniards at that time were alowing the murder and tourture of people over they're beliefs.
The reasoning behind the Patriot Act are to prevent terrorist attacks.
Like everything else it's officials taking advantage of a good thing for they're own agenda.
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