UK Smoking ban question...?
What's the crack with the UK smoking ban with regard to prisons? Non-smoking prison officers should not be subject to passive smoke inhalation should they? And what about non-smoking prisoners? Ok, they have limited rights because they're antisocial scrotes but should they be slowly poisoned by their fellow scrotes smokey exhalations? Surely several thousand murderous thugs are not going to give up smoking because they've been asked nicely, therefore I assume the ban does not apply. What do you reckon?
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as i live in Scotland i can only comment on the legal situation in Scotland.
the situation is as follows. the inmates are permitted to smoke as the prison is seen as their place of permanent residence( home address effectively) and the law does not ban smoking at home.
however for the prison officers the prison is their workplace and as such they are covered by the law and cannot smoke on the premises.
the same anomaly applies to staff and residents of care/nursing homes if the patients/residents are being treated on a permanent live-in basis.
as i say i cannot be certain that the law is the same in England / wales and northern Ireland but i fell that it would be extremely likely that it would be.
You can smoke in prison. End of.
I think their cells would be classed as 'residential dwellings' therefore bypassing the no smoking ban.
prisoners are allowed because its their home but prison officers aren't allowed because its their place of work
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I know where your coming from, I have several friends who work in the prison service, You can imagine how they feel about this subject.The fact is that the ban does apply to the prisoners as well as staff, Its just that the home office in its infinite wisdom has chosen to turn a blind eye, in the case of prisoners, whom it finds hard to con troll in these days of political correctness, where as the staff are far easier to con troll. I also agree that some prisoners do not wish to become passive smokers,but appease the majority.. that seems to be policy at the moment.Residence does not apply, as the prison is there residence not the individuals cell .
I have a friend in a UK prison. They are allowed to smoke in their cells and in their excercise yard...that is it. The screws are no longer permitted to smoke in the prison but can outside. I guess the governers just do not want a load of already frustrated, restricted and already restrained inmates becoming even more frustrated, restricted and restrained.
The obvious answer is when a prisoner fancies a smoke they should let them out of the prison, like the rest of us, who ,when we fancy a smoke, have to go out the office. Now I'm sure you'd soon find all the inmates would take up smoking, and in no time, we'd cut down the prison population over night
were the prisoners not them. as Tracy on big brother would say deal wiv it.
No smoking isn't banned in prisons. It wasn't banned in prisons when it came in in Ireland or Scotland either.
I was in prison when they announced the ban and people were talking about it but because prison is your 'home' you will still be able to smoke there like in hotel bedrooms and stuff like that.
You are allowed smoke in your cell and outside. When I was there it was allowed in a couple of other places officially but I'm guessing that's changed now. If you don't smoke you can ask for a non smoking cell and they are meant to give that to you if you want that.
Most people in prison do smoke anyway. When you go in you get tobacco in your pack as you don't normally have money in your account for canteen for the first few days. It wouldn't really work in a prison anyway because as I said nearly everybody smokes. It's bad enough being in prison but when you're banged up for 22 hours a day (especially at the weekend) you do smoke more out of boredom.
Don't agree that you should be made to give up just because you're in prison. If I have to go back in I couldn't imagine being able to cope without being able to smoke. Some of the people who don't smoke before start to smoke when they are locked up.
I guess prison cells are a public place, so you do have a point and that would come under Passive Smoking, if a prisoner is smoking and is near a guard who is a non-smoker.
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If you banned smoking in Prison it would be the Prison Warders / Govenors who would be fined if one broke the Law.
I can't see that working bearing in mind they can't even stop them taking drugs.
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