I think smoking bans in bars and restaranunts are pure bullsh^t, here's why..?
I think the only ruls should be that an establishment has to CHOOSE if they are a smoke friendly place or not. They would have to have a sing on the entrance saying so. and their ads would say No Smoking if they didn't allow it.
I think this way owners get to run their buisnesses the way they want.
If you don't like smoking then you can go somewhere else. NOBODY has the RIGHT to a smoke free bar or restarant. You are not forced to go there and they are not forced to feed you.
Now I agree that smoking sections are the dumbest thing in the world because that's pointless. The smoke's going to go all over the room.
But I think they should be allowed to choose if they allow smoking or not.
It should be the owners choice.
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As a bartender, I fully agree with you.
I don't mind smoke around me, and if my customers relax instead of having to go outside, then great.
On an entire strip of bars on any given street, the one that would get the most business would be the smoking ones. However, since a bunch of whiny asscrabs decided it was better to ruin everyone's good time instead of opening a NON-SMOKING bar, they've enacted their wishes upon an entire society.
Yes, some of us don't care if we smell like smoke.
That was one of the reasons some groups were fighting the ban when it was on the ballot in WA -- that it violated property rights, the business owners should have the right to determine whether it was allowed in their establishments or not.
But it passed.
typical thinking of a rude smoker, if you can't leave the cigarettes in the car long enough to eat a meal, you need coundeling.
I agree. Especially bars and casinos. If I go somewhere and know it's non smoking, it doesn't bother me. But if I'm in an establishment drinking and want a smoke, I feel like I should be able to have one and it should be left up to the owners of that establishment to decide. Then it even gives non smokers the choice, as well.
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Smoking is a discusting habit anyway! QUIT!
But no one seems to give a damn about what you think.
It all comes down to one's fundamental view of smoking: Do you see it as an acceptable choice someone might make, or as an unacceptable menace on society? For instance, you might think that a juice bar should offer all the different types of juice, so the customers can choose what they want. But you probably would agree that they shouldn't offer a poisoned juice or a glass of blood or anything weird like that. Most people would draw the line between a juice they don't like, and something that isn't a "juice" at all.
It's the same with smoking...People who believe it's OK to smoke (even if they don't personally smoke) will probably agree with you, that it should be up to the owner. But those of us who believe that smoking is simply filling the air (and the lungs of the smokers) with toxic chemicals, and that it has no redeeming value whatsoever, will view smoking taking place in restaurants as nothing short of a terrorist attack! Therefore we don't think it should be "optional".we definitely think it should be outlawed.
I agree 100%.
These non smoking laws clearly infringe on a business owner's right to conduct his business as he sees fit. There's enough rules and regulations involved with running your own business without the government telling our customers what they can and cannot do within our own establishment.
I see no problem with posting a sign which would designate a bar as "non smoking" or "smoking" establishment. After all, no one is forced to either patronize or work in either establishment.
For instance, if I see a sign requiring a tie - I simply give my money to another establishment that isn't so anal. The same would apply if I saw a "smoking allowed" sign and I were an anti-smoking zealot.
In my opinion, in many instances, the government can stay the hell out of private businesses and we'd all be better off.
There's a LOT of people in America that don't have as many job skills as the rest of us.
Does that mean that they should have to resign themselves to working in an essentially dangerous environment?
Many states - indeed even Ireland - have adopted non-smoking ordinances.
Sorry...but it's the trend, and the future.
I agree with you on this one. Property owners should have the say. That said in public places I agree with the ban because smoke by its very nature can not obey the logic of you rights end where mine begin.
Go convince the courts then. The people of Ohio voted in favor of a state-wide ban.
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