How do I get a reference from my present employer when I dont want them to know I am looking for an?
alternative job - the application form requires a reference from my present employer and one from a previous employer but I dont want to tell my present employer I am thinking of leaving in case I dont get the job and they sack me for looking else where !! Or make my life uncomfortable in the mean time !! Help !
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"References supplied upon request".
You don't need to supply a reference until there is a firm job offer or at the very least, an interview.
You can't really get a reference from a present employer without them knowing.
Well, maybe you could get HR to give a reference at a HUGE company--but they'd still probably tell your boss. Or at a really small company, you might be able to get your boss to--if he did it as a friend.
I have an idea: tell your boss you're looking for a 2nd job because you need extra money, and let them know that company "x" will be calling. I think that could get you through it. Of course, you're lying to your current company--but since you're leaving, who cares?
Sadly there's no way of course. You must take the chance and quit and if you leave on amicable terms, I don't see why they wouldn't give you good references.
I understand your plight though I've gone through that in my younger years when I was an employee...
Good luck! Adela
The company you have applied to shouldn't obtain a reference from your present employer if you don't want them to.
If they need references then they should go to a past employer.
Write in that you do not want your present employer notified, and list past employers instead. They will understand that.
you put on your application 'references available on request'
which means if you are offered the job you can supply references
Check with the people that you are applying to, but normally they will not take up references until you accept a job offer. The job offer is normally conditional upon references being supplied.
Ask that a reference is not taken until a firm offer of a job is made.then you will get a job subject to a reference...
They usually say that references won't be taken up unless you are offered a position, I don't think it's legal to sack an employee for looking for another job - in the UK anyway !
Most employers will ask if it is ok to contact your present employer- you can say not until you are offered the job. Most do not take up references unless they are going to offer you the job so don't worry.
This is a common situation. You should either state on your CV that references are available on request (without giving the details of the referee) or indicate clearly that your current employer cannot be approached unless in certain circumstances (i.e if the new employer offers you the job).
I have filled countless positions in numerous jobs and I have never heard it be an issue that a candidate took this approach towards references. Moreover, if I did receive a request for a reference for one of my staff it would not affect my attitude towards them nor their chances at my work. Indeed, I think I would be pleased to know because it would give me an idea how my employee was feeling and whether I was giving them all the develoment opportunities they wanted. If there were no such opportunites available in my organisation, and they had provided good service and wanted to move on, I should encourage them to move to achieve their goals.
Having said that I realise not all employers take this attitude, hence your anxiety. Good luck!
As to being sacked, it would be illegal for an employer to sack you because you looked for another job and it came to their attention. This would be unfair dismissal and you would have a legal claim in this event. As to making your life difficult... well they could, but if I was in this situation I would challenge them and say it was precisely because you thought that would happen... that you want to move jobs!
Two possibilities:
1) Give your present employer as a reference with the proviso that the reference is only to be taken up if you are offered the job.
2) Go to a senior colleague lower down the hierarchy whom you trust and ask if he or she can help with a reference. I'm sure there must be someone.
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